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Who is Wrestlemania 28 most important for?

Discussion in 'Wrestling Forum' started by Jimmy Redman, Mar 26, 2012.

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Who will be made or broken?

Poll closed Apr 1, 2012.
  1. John Cena

    3 vote(s)
    25.0%
  2. The Rock

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  3. CM Punk

    4 vote(s)
    33.3%
  4. Daniel Bryan

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  5. Sheamus

    1 vote(s)
    8.3%
  6. Cody Rhodes

    1 vote(s)
    8.3%
  7. The Miz

    2 vote(s)
    16.7%
  8. Santino Marella

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  9. Undertaker

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  10. Other

    1 vote(s)
    8.3%
  1. Jimmy Redman

    Jimmy Redman New Member

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    What I mean is, who has the most riding on what happens at Mania? Who's career could be made or broken by the show? Who has the most to gain, or to lose?

    For Cena its the biggest match of his career. If he loses they really need to do it right because I think there's something to him losing credibility if he doesnt win. Also something else to consider in a more insular way is that I think if they have a disappointing match in any way, Cena will be blamed and it will be proof that he's not a worker after all.

    Rock its more about being able to still perform at his previous level in the ring. Also, on the business side the show being a disappointment in any way could raise a lot of questions about his real value, especially going forward after the dream match.

    Punk to me its more like, he SHOULD be in a position to make himself in front of a huge audience right now, but I dont think its that critical since he's cooled off since the summer. But still, I think the principle remains that there has to be some sort of "Come for the oldies, stay for the newbies" in the presentation, or else they'll just remain lost the other 11 months of the year. And Punk is still the best candidate for the adult male crowd to adopt as their new guy. And then it also depends on how much of a chance he gets, if he performs and if he wins.

    Bryan and Sheamus its a similar thing, only with less exposure. If they get a chance they could steal the show, if they dont they could be a real afterthought. Same also with Cody, although his depends less on time and more on booking and protection. Santino is getting more over every day with his new featured role and if he's booked strong in that match it could give him the credibility boost to take it further.

    The Miz, if the rumours are true and he does do something big on the show, will it work? Will it give him the spark back he had in '10? Or, if its something like running in on the main event, will people just reject it?

    Taker I put there simply on the idea of him retiring after the show, or even losing and then retiring, and how that affects his legacy if he doesnt go out with a bang, or if people reject some sort of screwy finish.

    Anyway, what do you think?
     
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  2. Da Showstoppa

    Da Showstoppa New Member

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    I think it's big for the Miz - he's slowly dropping into midcard mediocrity again. Something big at Mania, such as a change of direction, or even igniting a new feud - would be very timely.

    For me I think the best option is a babyface run, as a heel there's a sense of "not enough partners left to dance with"
     
  3. Ciaran The King

    Ciaran The King Legend in the making Subscriber

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    Although I loathe John Cena and would love to see him go down to the Rock, he needs to win, has to win and for the benefit of himself and the WWE he has to destroy the Rock convincingly and without remorse.

    Forget Cena's debut against Big Show, forget his main event's against HHH/HBK/Batista/Miz, they all fade into insignificance compared to his showdown with the Rock. April 1st will be the turning point in the long career of John Cena, in this climatic showdown the PG rating needs to be thrown out the window and the claret needs to flow like never before in this match.

    The Miami location is the perfect setting for Cena's long awaited and very much needed mega heel turn, which I believe will reinvigorate his career and push him onto the next level character and career wise.
     
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    Cena wouldn't lose any credibility at all, I don't think; if he did lose. I'm usually more concerned for Cena's opponents losing credibility, to be honest.
     
  5. The Beltster

    The Beltster Well-Known Member

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    If Cena loses it means nothing, they dont have to do it carefully etc. This isnt 1985. If Cena loses, in 2 weeks he will be in a program with somebody else and nobody will even remember or care. I remember in 05 when people were crying about Shawn losing to Hogan, 2-3 weeks later nobody even gave a shit anymore and Shawn went on to other things, it didnt hurt him in the least.

    Cena has lost to much smaller stars than the Rock and been involved in some dire angles and skits, its never hurt him. This is 2012, things can be fixed with a couple weeks of TV, its not a big deal. Wins and loses these days dont mean shit.
     
  6. Fatherof10minis

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    This is most mania is most important to taker. Nothing has ever had more time invested into longer than the streak. It has spanned multiple generations and has been easily the largest storyline the last few years at mania. I agree with the above posts that if cena loses he will recover and i dont even think hes gonna make a heel turn. But if the streak were to end it would hold more of a lasting memory in peoples minds than cena because cena will be around and there may not be another streak match. I gotta go with taker, he needs to retire undefeated and complete the longest innvested storyline in wrestling history.
     
  7. Ciaran The King

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    I also believe that there is no logical reason for the streak to end especially to HHH, but if it was to end I would love to see it happen at the hands of Rhodes or Barrett.
     
  8. Da Showstoppa

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    You know I had a crazy idea during the Rock's promo.

    You don't suppose that IF he knocks off Cena at Mania - he would then look to cement his "legacy" by having a crack at the Streak?
     
  9. Ciaran The King

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    That's a good theory, but then again your using veterans in a spot which should belong to someone younger. I'm leaning more to Rock v Brock at next years WM
     
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    Is Lesnar actually coming back then? For the record, the Streak should never be broken, and 20 and 0 would be a nice one to retire on for Taker.
     
  11. Ciaran The King

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    I've read that he's interested in returning but on a limited appearance contract, and yes Taker retiring on 20-0 would be nice for him and for all of wrestling
     
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    The thing I really fear happening is WWE putting Cena in next year and having him break it. I think I'd be done with WWE permanently on principle if that happened.
     
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    If that was to happen wrestling from a in ring stand point would be over.
     
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    If Cena is as big a "wrestling fan" as he likes to shout about - then he himself would veto it.
     
  15. Evil Gringo

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    Rock v Brock would be a terrible idea for the simple fact that both only will return back when the well is running dry in other areas, plus for a former (all be it terrible) former UFC champion to go back to working matches would be a terrible idea for Brock.

    From a storyline stand point the fact is that Brock can claim to be tougher then any other 'fake' fighter and that he was the one who ran Rock off into making movies when he defeated him for the Undisputed Title in 2002. Likewise Rock's motivation would be that Brock is the one man he has never defeated - which is true, he hasn't. He has beaten Taker, Kane, Stone Cold, HHH, Angle, Big Show and Foley - all the biggest stars of his era as well as later main eventers like Edge, Beniot, Jericho and Christain in the past but he never defeated Brock and he never got that rematch.
     
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    Rock never beat goldberg either. I dont understand all the hype about brock returning anyways. Hes not a company saving, industry revolutionizing kinda guy. Hes just another big man that would fall into place behind jon cena. And with wwes horrible booking skills i would fear brock getting misused and put into unnatural situations for a forkmer ufc fighter. Nobody wants to see a comical brock lesnar wish is what im sure they would throw at him from time to time.
     
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    As of right now it's not even hype, its is just rumour and wishful thinking. Brock only just retired from MMA, has been there and done it all in wrestling, left on bad terms and has made alot of money in his life, enough to support the kind of lifestyle he likes to lead.

    I honestly think he is going to try and keep himself healthy and spend time with his family which is his one joy in life above everything else.

    Plus you're right, if Brock came back they would eventually feed him to Cena due to their previous history when Cena was the upstart trying to defeat him and came up short - now he would eventually overcome Lesnar and offically place himself in the position as 'Da Man'.

    Back to Mania though and I think it is Punk who has the most to lose. His momentum has stalled since the Summer of Punk a little bit after the loss to HHH (a stupid one from a booking stand point) and the Cena v Rock feud coming to a climax as well and overshadowing him. He needs a big performance as well as leaving with the title around his waist to show everyone that he is the leader of the new era, that he is the Best in the World.

    Jericho, Cena, Rock, HHH - they have nothing to lose. Taker can only be hurt if he loses his streak and I am worried because a) HHH has never beaten Taker at Mania and b) Michael's involvement that there will be a screwy ending and the streak will end. IMO it should get to 20-0 with this win after a good close match, HBK should call it down the middle, HHH and then Taker should both then retire and make it the end of the Attitude era.
     
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    I hated Cena, just like every other IWF.

    This fued with the Rock, has changed my opinion of him. I want Cena to win. I loved the Rock just as much as everyone, 10 years ago. All I see now is a movie star trying to sell a few more tickets to his movies.

    Wrestlamania has been important for Cena because it turned me around on how I felt about him.
    I wouldnt have thought that possible just 2 months ago.
     
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    Ego's can run wild
     
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    Lets be honest, if someone in a position of power within the WWE creative department comes up to any wrestler and says you have been chosen to end the streak and Taker is ok with it as well - then they are going to say yes because in the land of kayfabe that is big, bigger then winning the Grand Slam, bigger then winning the World title - bigger then anything really today.

    If you think of who Taker has beaten to keep the streak alive over the years, the likes of HHH, HBK, Edge, Nash, Jake the Snake, Batista, Jimmy Snuka, King Kong Bundy, Sid, Kane (x2), Ric Flair and Randy Orton - to be the man to do what they couldn't in terms of pure push and storyline potential - I can't think of a single wrestler on the roster who would turn that down.
     

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