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Rampage Quits The UFC?

Discussion in 'Boxing and MMA Forum' started by John Hancock, Mar 6, 2012.

  1. John Hancock

    John Hancock Well-Known Member Subscriber Senior Moderator

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    Anyone who's following Rampage on Twitter may have noticed a pretty rapid Chyna-style mental breakdown since he lost to Bader and now he's saying he's quitting the UFC and wants to work for smaller MMA companies;

    Other than kinda sounding like he's on meth, do you believe him or not? If it's true, that's the end of an area right there, one of the greatest of all time.
     
  2. Jamster26

    Jamster26 Well-Known Member Subscriber

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    I take it he failed English class?

    It sounds like abit of a cop out to me. As I didn't watch the fight, was it a comprehensive victory for Bader? Surely you want to test yoursef in the best MMA company, unless you don't think that you have what it takes.
     
  3. John Hancock

    John Hancock Well-Known Member Subscriber Senior Moderator

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    I'd say Bader beat him pretty convincingly, but it was a tactical points victory, he didn't beat him up or anything.

    I don't think it has anything to do with avoiding competition or not wanting to be tested, Rampage is 33, he's been a professional mixed martial artist for 13 years, he's been in top level MMA companies for 9 years, and he's been in the UFC for 5 years. He's a former Pride champion, and a former UFC champion. I don't think he has anything left to prove or any tests left to pass, and I wouldn't have a problem with him retiring at all, my problem is that he isn't planning to retire, he's planning to just leave the UFC, which reminds me of pro-wrestling sad cases like Hulk Hogan and Ric Flair who just can't bow out forever. It'll be a sad thing to see if a guy like Rampage is fighting into his late 30's in front of crowds of only a few thousand people in a concert hall.
     
  4. etz

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    It really does depend on why he wants to leave the UFC. From his tweets, he doesn't sound like he's happy with UFC (he's quit once before too for the same reason), and since he has nothing to prove and would be a draw for a smaller promotion, why not? It's not like he needs the money, or is falling apart or can't fight anymore, so if he wants to be somewhere else, fine.

    I do think JH is right about retiring gracefully though and if he looses his next fight, he should just go do movies.
     
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    ViciousPrism Well-Known Member

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    Again? He's threatening to leave again? Might as well dub him Quittin' Jackson for life now.
     
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    Crazy to think that 2 fights ago he was fighting for the belt.
     
  7. The Beltster

    The Beltster Well-Known Member

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    I find it funny when the fans decide what its time for a pro athlete to retire. Lets forget the fact he can earn more money for one fight than most of us will in 10 years and all that.
     
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    etz Well-Known Member

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    But equally, the guy has straight up said he's turning down movies to keep fighting.... which is silly if he's not winning. Frankly, it's probably silly even if he is winning, given how much more he's likely to earn acting, but it's his life.

    I can only speculate on what I would do in a similar situation and that based on assumptions about his situation (both in terms of earnings and what he prefers). I think it's fairly obvious that most of us would cut off one of our testicles with a blunt butter knife to actually be the person making that choice.
     
  9. The Beltster

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    He's saying that, doesnt mean its true. Lets be honest, who would turn down movies to continue fighting MMA when you are past your prime? Unless he is only being offered minor roles in budget movies which would pay him less than he makes fighting. Rampage isnt stupid, he's going to go where the money is.

    Yeah I mean lets be fair, money is money, we can all say this guy should retire but there is a reason they dont: they are still getting paid. I remember when Michael Jordan came back to play with the Bulls when he was in his last 30's and he wasnt the same, but he was still good. People were saying he should retire. He was getting $20 MILLION dollars per season, which is 6 months. Who the hell is turning down $3.4 million per month, past their prime or not? And he was still winning championships. Same is said about old wrestling, Flair, Hogan etc. "Oh they need to retire, they are stinking up the joint!" Flair is getting $15,000 a week and Hogan is getting $35,000 a week to stink up the joint. I'd eat my own shit, throw it up and eat it again in front of my kids for $35,000 a week!

    Yes, people go on way past their prime but money is more important than legacy, legacy doesnt pay the bills and afford you a nice lifestyle.
     
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    etz Well-Known Member

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    Never a truer word spoken and besides, in a hundred years no one will really remember you anyway so legacy isn't all it's cracked up to be on that basis alone.
     
  11. John Hancock

    John Hancock Well-Known Member Subscriber Senior Moderator

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    I think he's mentioned that he hardly made any money from The A-Team and made more when he fought Rashad, which is pretty shocking, because I don't see him making more than $1million per fight, and actors normally earn way more than that for big films.
     
  12. The Beltster

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    I reckon he makes around $500,000 - 750,000 per fight UFC. Maybe he didnt get much for the A-Team because he was a first timer. Who knows, I saw the Lamborghini he just bought himself, he isnt short of a few quid either way. Maybe he makes more fighting just because he's a name in fighting whereas he's a relative nobody in acting.
     
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    John Hancock Well-Known Member Subscriber Senior Moderator

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    I'm such a pedantic nerd for knowing this, but MusclePharm bought him the Lamborghini as a present for getting a title shot.
     
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    ok cool. In an interview with Aryanni (or however you spell her name) he said "This is my new toy I just bought" so I assumed he bought it himself. That car is hot shit!
     
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    I think, and it is only an assumption based on how the UK tax system works, he'll have to pay income tax on the book value of car as a benefit in kind. So it's kind of earnings and kind of a gift.
     
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    Looks like its all over. Ariel Helwani is reporting that Rampage vs Shogun has been booked and, no matter what the result, Dana White has confirmed that Rampage will be released from his contract after the fight.
     
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    Jackson made a downside $250,000 for the main event win over Matt Hamill at UFC 130 in May 2011, so his basic downside will be in the $250,000-$500,000 range. He's also one of 28 contracted UFC fighters that gets a percentage of the pay-per-view buyrate he fights on.

    Oh, and Jackson needs double-knee surgery, so the Rua fight won't happen until he's recovered, so I assume last-quarter 2012.
     

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