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Finally The Rock has gone........and PROMISES to come back?

Discussion in 'Wrestling Forum' started by Ciaran The King, Apr 8, 2012.

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  1. Ciaran The King

    Ciaran The King Legend in the making Subscriber

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    I'm not going to go over old ground as we all know and have given our opinions on the year long feud between Rock and Cena.

    What this Thread is about is The Rock's promise to return and one more time win the WWE Championship. I enjoyed the Rock's return, the promos, skits and stare-downs were all great moments which reminded of how much we all miss the Rock and what a great time the attitude era was.

    What niggled me slightly was his final comments at the end of his promo on Raw about promising to return and beat whoever is champion and lift the title. I don't mind Rock dropping in to set up a dream match at Summerslam or WM, I even like the yearly Raw promos to remind everyone that WWE is home. But what I don't want to see is Rock drop in at the start of a month win the title at the PPV and then leave again.

    If Rock is to return will he actually stay for a few months and work a career enhancing feud with someone or will he drop in to enhance a PPV buy-rate and his own pocket.
     
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    Agreed, if he's staying, he needs to stay and work a proper program. Otherwise, he should just **** off.
     
  3. Beefhead

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    Ive heard he has three or four projects lined up back back right now but that he wants a proper last run after he's done with said projects. I'm not sure there's any truth to that but sounds good to me.
     
  4. Da Showstoppa

    Da Showstoppa New Member

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    Perfectly said. You can't have a WWE Champion who naffs off for half the year.
     
  5. Chris2K

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    You're right, he should stop making tens of millions of dollars for each movie he does to stay an extra few months to try and get Dolph Ziggler over. Coming back for two months and adding loads of buys to WrestleMania isn't helping ANYONE.
     
  6. Da Showstoppa

    Da Showstoppa New Member

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    That's fine. But having the title is something else. The Champion needs to be in action regularly, if not defending the belt. You can't have The Rock swoop in, win the title and then disappear for months on end.
     
  7. Chris2K

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    I don't think Rock will win the title, but it adds interest to another return by saying he wanted it. In an ideal world it would be Brock as WWE champion against a challenging Rock at WM29.

    Let's not forget people that Rock has absolutely nothing to prove, no dues to pay and no actual reason for coming back to the WWE than a sense of loyalty and appreciation for the opportunities it gave him. It's been mentioned he comes back for money but he could make more by doing a movie instead of two-three months of hype/training for a Mania match.
     
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    Rock V Brock was my precise thought for WM29 the minute Rock said he wanted to come back again.
     
  9. Ciaran The King

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    No it doesn't, because the more WWE depend on people like the Rock for big WM events then they won't push their own talent
     
  10. Chris2K

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    But that's not Rock's fault in the slightest, that's completely on the WWE management and creative team for not making enough new stars during the significant amount of time that Rock's not been there. If Rock can come back for Mania, still add buys and co-Main Event behind a WWE Title match between Punk and Jericho then great. However he has to Main Event because they dropped the ball on Punk in the summer and waited until the week after Elimination Chamber to start the Punk/Jericho build-up.

    And it's helping everyone, WWE get extra buys which means the wrestlers on the card get their WrestleMania bonuses are increased. The added mainstream attention that Rock brings means new fans, which is more exposure for everyone in the company. What the WWE does with that extra exposure is once again in their hands, not The Rock's.
     
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    Rock isnt going to win the title anytime soon, because he's going away. If he wins the title it would necessarily be at a time when he can commit to a lot of dates, because you're all making the self-evident point - he cant be champion if he's not on TV.

    Brock winning the belt during the year and defending against Rock at WM29 seems the obvious course at this stage.
     
  12. Ciaran The King

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    I agree completely.

    Which last for as long as the Rock or anyone else is around. For example whatever extra publicity/fans that the Rock attracted over the past few months are long gone.
     
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    Plus, I don't genuinely buy the "so many added buys" argument.

    Survivor Series 2011 certainly didn't bear that out, it pulled 37000 more buys than 2010, which is up, but not spectacular.

    On the flip side, 37000 PPV buys is another $1.85 million worth of business at $50 a buy....so it wouldn't take a lot of extra buys to make it worthwhile.
     
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    Rock added about 250,000 buys to Wrestlemania 27 and it was the highest grossing WM of all time until this year's. He already proved his worth in that department. And Survivor Series was almost entirely WWE's fault, not because Rock cant be a draw.

    If you look at MITB as an experiment as to what the ceiling is on how many buys you can add by booking the greatest internet angle ever, then Survivor Series was sort of an experiment as to what the ceiling is on how many buys the sole fact of a guy's name on the marquee can add versus the worst booking in the entire world. And the answer was 37,000.
     
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    SS has to go down as one of the worst promoted shows ever
     
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    I think the difference is that everybody knew that rock wasnt going to work a steady workload til mania and ten everyone knew that he was leaving as soon as mania ended. I think more people will buy into a title run because it will mean rock being around for an extended period and possibly working with more than just one guy. I would hope to see him work with a few.

    As far as rok vs brock goes, it is just another math that will overshadow the new talent like this years mania. It not only shows how weak the product has become, but how big of names the attitude era guys are compared to todays superstar.
     
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    Yeah, the "End of an Era" was an ironic name to pick for HHH/Taker when, on the same card, Rock was working his first singles match in years and the next night Brock re-debuts.
     
  18. Ciaran The King

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    I'm not so sure he will work with more than just one guy. He will either return to challenge Brock for the WWE title after Brock has annihilated the roster or someone like CM Punk or Orton will say something against him and turn heel.
     
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    Some of you take this shit way too seriously. The belts are props, they hold little value in 2012. They toss them around from one guy to the bext haphazard anyway, so they may as well chuck it on the Rock who is a huge star.
     
  20. Da Showstoppa

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    Don't you think it's a sad state of affairs though when the titles are that meaningless?
     
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